[qutebrowser] Log in to Google Account using qutebrowser

[Ryan Roden-Corrent]

At the risk of derailing this, you might want to search "nothing to hide fallacy" on the search engine of your choice (maybe duckduckgo instead of google?).

https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2006/05/the_value_of_pr.html and https://spreadprivacy.com/three-reasons-why-the-nothing-to-hide-argument-is-flawed/ are some good ones.

There are alternatives to Google. https://www.passwordstore.org/ is a nice password manager that can sync between multiple devices including your phone. Qutebrowser bookmarks/quickmarks are simple files you can sync between devices using any file syncing service (ideally with encryption - I'm using keybase for this right now). I'm sure if you ask around this community you can find many other options.

If you find that Google seems to be fighting your desire to use their service in the way you want, you can keep fighting that battle, or look for friendlier alternatives.

Best of luck, whichever route you choose :)

-Ryan

On December 4, 2019 11:22:14 AM EST, Denis Khizhniak <4denis.kh at gmail.com> wrote:
>Thank you, Florian, a really comprehensive answer.
>
>I am not really bothered about my security as I have nothing to hind. I
>like the way Google lets me save and substitute my credentials for
>plenty
>of web resources and across multiple devices. Otherwise, it would not
>be a
>problem for me with accessing my Google Account on qutebrowser.
>I mean Google makes my life easier sometimes and would like to retain
>his
>help. At the same time, I like the simplicity and the vim-like nature
>of
>qutebrowser.
>
>Anyway, the information that you've shared is quite interesting and
>helpful. Thank you.
>
>
>ср, 4 дек. 2019 г. в 13:28, Florian Bruhin <me at the-compiler.org>:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 04, 2019 at 12:39:44PM +0100, Denis Khizhniak wrote:
>> > So, I have no idea how Google checks the actual browser and whether
>it's
>> > possible to fool him.
>>
>> Neither do I. Chances are that as soon as someone finds a solution,
>Google
>> will
>> just adjust whatever checking they do to break it again.
>>
>> There are various other projects and browsers (including e.g. Brave
>or
>> Steam)
>> affected as well. Some examples:
>>
>> https://support.google.com/accounts/thread/21838601
>> https://support.google.com/accounts/thread/21634818
>>
>>
>https://github.com/search?q=%22You+are+trying+to+sign+in+from+a+browser+or+app+that+doesn%27t+allow+us+to+keep+your+account+secure%22&type=Issues
>>
>>
>https://www.reddit.com/r/brave_browser/comments/cyrlt0/you_are_trying_to_sign_in_from_a_browser_or_app/
>>
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/e3kb4w/steam_web_browser_problems/
>>
>> There are some people who claim to have a solution, but don't want to
>talk
>> about it publicly - precisely because it'll just end up in Google
>blocking
>> that
>> as well.
>>
>> I wouldn't be surprised if Google just blocks pretty much everything
>other
>> than
>> Chrome and maybe Firefox. It's ridiculous, but it's yet another sign
>> showing
>> that maybe it isn't a good thing to make yourself dependent on Google
>-
>> you're
>> absolutely at their mercy, and they don't exactly have a good track
>record.
>>
>> I've once tried helping someone who only got an internal server error
>when
>> trying to open an important attachment of an older mail in GMail. We
>> contacted
>> Google Support, and as you'd predict, nothing happened.
>>
>> Given that Google really doesn't care about its users, your only
>option is
>> either switching browsers, or moving away from Google. I did the
>latter
>> years
>> ago[*]. Seeing what's going on here, this absolutely was the right
>> decision,
>> but I'm aware this isn't something everyone can realistically do...
>>
>> Florian
>>
>> [*] At least for stuff like Calendar and Mail. I still use Youtube
>(mostly
>> via
>> mpv/youtube-dl), Google Play and sometimes Maps (mostly switched to
>> Openstreetmap/OSMand).
>>
>> --
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>>
>
>
>-- 
>Best regards,
>Denis Khizhniak

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