[Individual-members-EL] letter to all EL parties regardingindividual members

[Stephen Spence]

Nobert,

Well if you are working with Helmut Scholz perhaps something will happen,
however Helmut promised me at the 2nd Congress in Prague something would
develop when Uli, Mike and I agreed not to run an individual member
candidate for the Executive Board at that Congress, and nothing ever did
happen.  

I also wrote seeking observor status for the 'European Left Network' of
individual members in Britain and again nothing happened.

Martin has always been a great supporter, but never in a position to make
the Executive Board take notice.

I think Helmut and Martin are genuine and interested but the majority of the
Executive Board is not, but they don't want to say that openly, so they just
let us die on the vine.

If this effort doesn't work I will do something else.  The Founding
Conference in Rome, which I attended, was eight years ago now its 2012!
That's long enough to wait

Happy New Year.

Best

Stephen

-----Original Message-----
From: norberthagemann at web.de [mailto:norberthagemann at web.de] 
Sent: 28 December 2011 23:28
To: Stephen Spence
Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] letter to all EL parties
regardingindividual members

Dear Stephen,
You are completely right, I think we do not have a different validation
regarding the situation as well as the ongoing processes and the positions
of the different Parties. What do you not know, I'm working together with
Helmut Scholz within the Parliament in Brussels and Martin too after leaving
the EL office. I understand your concerns but nether the less I think what
we shall change is not to rely any more on parties - in favour or not that
is our problem - but to create our own political momentum, to get money for
meetings and to work etc.  If they are not interested the should say that
publicly for every body how they are understanding internal democracy. At
the end there is an European regulation to be respected for getting the
european money they intending to have. 
Kind regards
Norbert  

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Am 28.12.11 um 21:42 schrieb Stephen Spence

> So no reply from Pierre Laurant.  So far, so predictable.  The French
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> Communist Party does not support individual membership developing. I had a
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> number of conversations with them.
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> I'm afraid neither does Giorgios nor his party Synpaspismos.  I spoke to
him
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> at the 3rd Congress in Paris and confirmed his opposition, which before I
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> had simply suspected.
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> Martin Heberg supported us amongst the staff, as did his party Die Linke.
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> Helmut Schulz just never achieved a result although he spoke up for us.
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> Let us see what happens, but I suspect nothing.  I have not paid my
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> subscription since 30th June 2011 and I was not able to get to either of
the
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> trade union network meetings this year.  The European Left Party I'm
afraid
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> to say is irrelevant to events in Britain.  When there was a hope it might
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> develop there was a point being engaged, but if this latest attempt fails,
I
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> don't see much point in continuing as they say here to 'flog a dead
horse'.
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> Best
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> Stephen   
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> From: individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de
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> [mailto:individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de] On Behalf Of
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> Norbert Hagemann
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> Sent: 25 December 2011 21:05
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> To: giorgos.karatsioubanis at european-left.org
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> Cc: individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
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> Subject: [Individual-members-EL] letter to all EL parties
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> regardingindividual members
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> Dear Giorgios Karatsioubanis,
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> enclosed I send you a letter which was signed by eight individual EL
members
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> from different countries. The letter deals with the problem of the rights
of
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> individual members apart and was sent by us to Pierre Laurant before the
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> last EL EX-Board meeting in early October. To date, neither a reply nor a
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> confirmation of receipt is received.
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> Since you as "employee" of EL are also responsible for us, the individual
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> members, we want to ask you officially to give this letter to all member
and
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> observer parties of the EL at the latest till the next Board meeting in
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> January in Berlin. We hope that this letter will be formaly put on the
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> agenda and discussed during this meeting. 
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> At the same time we want to ask you, to communicate to all parties our
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> request, that in the upcoming budget of the EL for the year 2012 we would
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> like to have introduced a reasonable amount of money for an European
meeting
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> of individual members to be organized next year with the aim to discuss
and
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> organize our work within the EL. The existing working structures for
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> cooperation of the trade unionists or the EL-FEM-structures are well
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> established examples how we would like to go ahead in the future.
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> Thanks for your support. Please be so kind and keep us informed about your
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> activities regarding this letter.
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> Sincerely
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> Norbert
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