[Individual-members-EL] 1.may

Dr. Peter Troxler peter at knwldg.net
Sun Sep 25 18:05:01 CEST 2011


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On 25 Sep 2011, at 14:42 , Mike Nagler wrote:

> Dear Norbert,
>  
> i agree with you and i would sign such a letter too. But stephen is also right with his points. We have a big problem with nationalism in the european left memberparties - not so much inside the normal members - but of course at the funcional level. So there is no will to step forward to an unitied european party because that means delivery of power and more democracy. But its no new discussion... its at least 100 years old. Anyway to change something we have to focus not only at the board or the boards of the national parties. The national parties focus each mainly on their national level and revolve around themselves. The way to starting up a network of european members from the bottom is still the right one, but we are not so much inside the national parties with our proposals. The actual "real democracy now" protests in the different countries all over europe could be a connection for an active european left that is not only existing on a bureaucratic level. If you write such a letter please sent it over our list.
>  
> Greetings from Leipzig,
>  
> Mike
> germany
>  
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stephen Spence
> To: 'Indiv. Members EL' ; '"asbjørn andersen"' ; arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com ; EPirelli at t-online.de ; laurarey at online.no
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
> 
> Nobert,
>  
> I have been involved since 2004, attending the founding Conference in Rome, 2nd in Prague and 3rd in Paris.  The Executive Board are not in the slightest bit interested in developing individual membership.  The Left in Germany were supportive but have given up, the French Communists and Synpaspismos in Greece have been particularly against in the past any form of rights for individual members.
>  
> I too have stopped making any contribution, which I guess menas I am not a member anymore, but no-one has noticed, because I believe no-one cares enough to do anything about it.  Trying to do anything about it ourselves is hard because we need allies in the parties and haven’t got enough.
>  
> I still attend the Trade Union Network when I can, but I’m seriously considering what my future is with the European Left.
>  
> I would be happy to sign your letter, but I don’t hold out much hope that it will do any good.
>  
> Best
>  
> Stephen
>  
> Stephen Spence
> UK
>  
> From: individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de [mailto:individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de] On Behalf Of Norbert Hagemann
> Sent: 24 September 2011 18:04
> To: Indiv. Members EL; "asbjørn andersen"; arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com; EPirelli at t-online.de; laurarey at online.no
> Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
>  
> Dear all,
> I'm using this mail to go in contact with you. Hopefully this will work.
> I would like to ask you all to give me a feedback on the following idea.
>  
> Next days there will be a meeting of the Ex-Board (?) in Paris. This meeting will take place roughly 9 months after the Paris Party Congress. Since this congress the board had a lot of meetings around the globe during which never ever was the discussed the issue of our rights, the rights as Individual members in the Party. So finally (after being for years – since Athens - a member without any rights) I would ask you to send a letter from our side to the Board meeting asking to find urgently a solution and to involve us in this process / decision how the solutions should looks like. I personally stopped 9 months ago to pay my Party contribution (no rights - no obligations) but nobody is caring about that.  
> Would someone be interested to write together with me this letter and to sign it.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Norbert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Von: selvåg <kollung at online.no>
> Gesendet: 01.05.2011 11:49:02
> An: "asbjørn andersen" <asander at online.no>, arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com, EPirelli at t-online.de, laurarey at online.no, individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
> Betreff: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
> 
> <image001.jpg>workers of the world unite.
> 
> 1.may 2011.
>  
> kollung selvåg
> 
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