[Individual-members-EL] [ELmembers] Re: Elections on yahoo group

[Ulrich Deike]

Hi members of the mailing list and the yahoo group,

I'd like to reply to some of your ideas in the recent discussion within the yahoo group
and mailing list.
Polling inside the yahoo group first sounded like a splendid idea, but I see the same problem
about the yahoo group as a means of communication and elections as do Mike, Joseph and 
Francis: It's difficult to enter. After some weeks only 10 percent of us have managed to join.
We should rather think about ways how to get the 500 Italians actively involved in discussion and
activities and finally elections (hello Leonardo, can you hear us??). 

I also share the concerns about an unrestricted access. Jose, can anyone - even a complete stranger -
find us on the internet and join just like that. If we don't the people, who knows whether they are 
friends or not. Up to now Martin in the Brussels office has made sure that almost all of us are members,
which is nice if we talk about planned activities, confidential stuff, strategies, our perspectives, our views etc.

I would say, since we now have two options for electronic elections we can assume that the one or the other
will work somehow and everything else can be discussed as soon as the Congress 2007 has approved our
motion. We are actually talking about delegation to the Congress 2008 or 09. 

I think Mike is right in saying that we need more members. Knowing that the French Communist PArty opposed
individual membership in 2004 as a threat to its own existence, I am not sure if they will now tolerate the EL
funding a membership campaign for individual members in France. We could try it though.
Joseph, our French anchorman, what do you think about it? 
Generally, all these things (financing and planning OUR activities) would be easier if we had our own budget.
I think we will have to have discussion about this in a few months while growing (hopefully).

Looking forward to Francis' provocative contribution (please share it with all on the mailing list)


Regards

Uli






> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: ELmembers at yahoogroups.com
> Gesendet: 29.09.06 11:22:54
> An: ELmembers at yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [ELmembers] Re: Elections on yahoo group


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> Hi Joseph,
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> i think we will not be able to use the yahoo group for voting. You see
> its very complicated to get people in here. So we can use it as
> plattform for communication but i dont realy see a chance to do a
> election of a broadly group. I have no actual member statistic, but
> individual members should be at the moment some more then 600. We will
> not be able to get them all in here. We should definetly try to get
> some of us as guestspeakers to the next EL congress. That we can
> discuss over the lists. I see the most important job we have to do at
> the moment is to advertise individuell membership of the EL. We need
> more individuell members in all countries. Otherwise we will not be
> strong enough to start a wide discussion in the EL and its member
> parties about something like a european socialstate. At the moment our
> group is to small for that.
> By the way, i finish this week that flyer we will print next week and
> mete out in germany. (run of 20.000 copies) That flyer we also could
> use for advertise the indiv. membership in other countries. We just
> need to translate it and find someone to finance. (but that should be
> supported by the office in brussels)
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> Greetings
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> Mike
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> --- In ELmembers at yahoogroups.com, "josephdureuil" <upsetvoice at ...> wrote:
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> > Hi all,
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> > I joined this group because it could make easier the election
> process of 
> > representants. Anyway, I thought on one difficulty: if everyone who
> > wants can join the group, it also means that other people than
> > individual members could take part in the poll. If we organize the
> > election of representants basing on the poll system, it could be a
> > problem if other people than indivual members take part. It is only a
> > theoretical problem, but I want to ask you for solutions in case this
> > problem occurs. (Could we on yahoo group limit the people who take
> > part in a poll?)
> > 
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > Joseph Dureuil
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