[Individual-members-EL] changes to the statute

[joseph dureuil]

Hi all,

I agree with Francis about the suggested amendments: the amendment to 
article 6/2 could limit rights for individual members and the significance 
of the party. I think it is necessary to let individual members remain 
members of other parties, also unaffiliated to EL. Anyway I think that 
somebody who becomes a member of EL does not work against the interests of 
the EL.

The other amendments are quite fine. Besides I think that these amendments 
would be more going in direction of building a real European party by 
letting individual members of whole UE, also unaffiliated to any party or 
affiliated to party unaffiliated to EL, express themself outside national 
parties. Anyway I know the difficulty to let european citizens know the EL 
and be a member of it. We certainly need national parties to recruit members 
and to cooperate but I am convinced that building a delegation of one 
international structure is the most european solution. I don't know any 
figures of individual members but we have to know.

That's why I totally support these amendments but disagree with the 
amendment to article 6/2.

Greetings

Joseph Dureuil

P.s: Francis, in my case I am affiliated to no party in France, I only 
belong to EL


>From: "Francis King" <francis at socialisthistorysociety.co.uk>
>To: "Ulrich Deike" 
><udeike at web.de>,<individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de>
>Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] changes to the statute
>Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:04:18 +0100
>
>Hi all
>
>Uli is quiet right that if EL intends to make individual membership a
>permanent part of the EL structure, then there needs to be representation
>for individual members at EL congresses and on relevant committees. 
>However,
>I think that the first suggested amendment, to article 6/2, is unnecessary.
>The existing article 6/2 grants more rights to individual members than the
>amended version proposed by Uli, and I doubt that it would be workable
>anyway - there are so many small left-wing groups af all types in all the 
>EU
>states. They fuse and split all the time. Some are much to small to 
>consider
>affiliating to EL. So, as long as individual EL members are not working
>against the interests and positions of EL, their local affiliations should
>not matter.
>
>I don't have any problem with the other suggestions, which seem fine. But I
>wonder - why do people want to become EL individual members? For me in
>Britain, the answer is easy - the "communist parties" here are tiny,
>insular, dogmatic and backward-looking, the Labour Party allows itself to 
>be
>led by Blair and is therefore beneath contempt, and the most active groups
>on the left here are Trotskyists - dogmatic, sectarian and intolerant of
>dissent. There is nothing worth joining in this country. But in countries
>with EL affiliates, are individual people joining EL in addition to
>belonging to the PCF, PRC, PDS etc., or are they joining it instead of
>belonging to those parties? It would be interesting to know.
>
>All the best
>
>Francis King
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ulrich Deike" <udeike at web.de>
>To: <individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de>
>Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 6:55 PM
>Subject: [Individual-members-EL] changes to the statute
>
>
>Hi everybody,
>
>as you know we also have to fight for our own rights if we want to help
>others. I have attached my suggestion
>for changes to the EL-statute guaranteeing representation of all - also
>individual - members in the Congress
>(on the penultimate page of the document). I'm waiting for comments/other
>suggestions. I think it's necessary to discuss this
>first so that most of us indiv. members eventually support the version that
>we'll pass on to the Executive Board
>by the end of September. I'd be grateful if anyone had up-to-date figures 
>of
>party members to give us an idea of the
>composition of the upcoming Congress.
>
>take care
>
>Uli
>
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