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    Ich glaube der wichtigste Satz steht vorne:<br>
    <blockquote type="cite">The CLOUD Act does not provide the US
      government with any <b>new</b> authority to obtain
      content – of either US, EU or other foreign citizens – on <b>national
        security grounds</b>. It also
      does not expand the scope of who or what types of data can be
      subject to court-issued
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    Und da hat die USA schon bewiesen, das Sie dort skrupellos ist.<br>
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    Gruß<br>
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    Klaus Flesch<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 13.02.20 um 08:06 schrieb Frank
      Fiene:<br>
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      Hmm, schwierig.
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        <div>Genau das hätten die Member natürlich gerne.</div>
        <div>Wenn die Gruppe der Anbieter dieser Cloud-Plattformen die
          einzige Quelle ist, sagt das erst mal gar nichts aus.</div>
        <div>Im Moment sagen alle Quellen, die ich auf die schnelle
          gefunden habe, das Gegenteil aus.</div>
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        <div>Viele Grüße! Frank</div>
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            <div class="">Am 13.02.2020 um 07:55 schrieb Winfried
              Neessen <<a href="mailto:wn@neessen.net" class=""
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                            <div class="">was ich mich eher frage - kann
                              man Exchange Online ohne ein eigenes
                              Gateway davor überhaupt rechtskonform
                              einsetzen?<br class="">
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                              Wie ich das sehe, dürfte man Microsoft
                              dank CLOUD Act keine unverschlüsselten
                              Mails anvertrauen, wenn man nicht
                              ausschließen kann dass die
                              personenbezogene Daten (sowas wie
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                      <div class="">Huch! Gibt es dazu eine Quelle? Das
                        würde ja alle Cloud-Lösungen als Mailsystem
                        verhindern!</div>
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Klaus Flesch, Vorstand, Embedded Solutions AG
Kuehnheimerstrasse 21, D-79206 Breisach, Germany
Phone: +49 (7667) 933 876 Mobile: +49 (177) 913 95 96</pre>
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