<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Super, danke.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Testserver steht.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Frage: clamav im rspamd als Antivirus nutzen oder als eigenen Milter?</div><div class="">Vor-/Nachteile?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Viele Grüße!<br class="">Frank</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">-- <br class="">Frank Fiene</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">IT-Security Manager VEKA Group</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class="">Fon: +49 2526 29-6200<br class="">Fax: +49 2526 29-16-6200<br class="">mailto: <a href="mailto:ffiene@veka.com" class="">ffiene@veka.com</a><br class=""><a href="http://www.veka.com" class="">http://www.veka.com</a><br class=""><br class=""></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">PGP-ID: 62112A51<br class="">PGP-Fingerprint: 7E12 D61B 40F0 212D 5A55 765D 2A3B B29B 6211 2A51</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Threema: VZK5NDWW<br class=""><br class="">VEKA AG<br class="">Dieselstr. 8<br class="">48324 Sendenhorst<br class="">Deutschland/Germany<br class=""><br class="">Vorstand/Executive Board: Andreas Hartleif (Vorsitzender/CEO),<br class="">Dr. Andreas W. Hillebrand, Bonifatius Eichwald, Elke Hartleif, Dr. Werner Schuler,<br class="">Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates/Chairman of Supervisory Board: Ulrich Weimer<br class="">HRB 8282 AG Münster/District Court of Münster</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 16.05.2018 um 13:47 schrieb André Peters <<a href="mailto:andre.peters@debinux.de" class="">andre.peters@debinux.de</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Rspamd wird in der Regel als Milter eingesetzt. Milter sind immer pre-queue. Beim Proxyfilter würde er erst einen weiteren Verbindungszyklus durchlaufen. Das Milterprotokoll ist zwar Banane, aber in dem vermutlich sogar schneller.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Rspamd kann zum Beispiel hinter Haraka betrieben werden, welcher wiederum als dein Proxyfilter für Postfix dient. Ist demnach etwas umständlicher. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Lange Rede, kurzer Sinn: Ein Milter weist ab, bevor die Mail angenommen wurde. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Der Vorteil von Postscreen ist, dass die Mail gar nicht erst den smtpd erreicht, sondern die Metadaten (IP etc.) der Verbindung ausreichen, um RBLs abzufragen. Das passiert in dem Fall vermutlich sogar noch vor dem HELO, spätestens aber danach. Bei großem Aufkommen ist der Unterschied deutlich (!) spürbar. <br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">Grüße <br class=""><div class="">André Peters</div></div><div class=""><br class="">Am 16.05.2018 um 13:36 schrieb Frank Fiene <<a href="mailto:ffiene@veka.com" class="">ffiene@veka.com</a>>:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Am 16.05.2018 um 08:53 schrieb Carsten Rosenberg <<a href="mailto:cr@ncxs.de" class="">cr@ncxs.de</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Egal wer jetzt bei DNS Queries performanter ist, postscreen rejected<br class="">viel früher. Rspamd beginnt sein Werk so richtig erst nach dem EOD.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div class="">Ich hoffe nicht, ich will wie bei Amaris als smtpd_proxy_filter SPAM abweisen anstatt zu markieren. Und zwar zwingend bevor mein Server ein 250 zurückgibt!</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Man kann rspamd hoffentlich auch als smtp_proxy_filter verwenden, oder?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Viele Grüße! Frank</div><div class=""><div dir="auto" style="letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">-- <br class="">Frank Fiene</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">IT-Security Manager VEKA Group</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class="">Fon: +49 2526 29-6200<br class="">Fax: +49 2526 29-16-6200<br class="">mailto: <a href="mailto:ffiene@veka.com" class="">ffiene@veka.com</a><br class=""><a href="http://www.veka.com/" class="">http://www.veka.com</a><br class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">PGP-ID: 62112A51<br class="">PGP-Fingerprint: 7E12 D61B 40F0 212D 5A55 765D 2A3B B29B 6211 2A51</div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Threema: VZK5NDWW<br class=""><br class="">VEKA AG<br class="">Dieselstr. 8<br class="">48324 Sendenhorst<br class="">Deutschland/Germany<br class=""><br class="">Vorstand/Executive Board: Andreas Hartleif (Vorsitzender/CEO),<br class="">Dr. Andreas W. Hillebrand, Bonifatius Eichwald, Elke Hartleif, Dr. Werner Schuler,<br class="">Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates/Chairman of Supervisory Board: Ulrich Weimer<br class="">HRB 8282 AG Münster/District Court of Münster</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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