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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Maite Mola,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would also like to know the result of
the debate on individual members and I note it is a week since Norbert asked
politely. As I have been engaged in this discussion since the Founding Conference
in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Rome</st1:place></st1:City> in 2004
I think it is time it is given a little more urgent priority. Certainly for me
the result of this debate will determine whether or not I will maintain a
connection with EL. As the Assistant General Secretary of a <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">UK</st1:place></st1:country-region> trade union I
have found the trade union network a useful body to attend from time to time. I
have also attended the Congresses in Prague and Paris, Summer Schools in
Portugal and Paris but I have concluded whilst these events have been
interesting, without a forum for individual members, particularly in a country
with no national party, it is pointless being involved long term in something
if the structures do not evolve after eight years to provide a place for a
section of membership the constitution says it wants.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If EL simply wants to be a party of
parties then openly say so. At least then we’ll know.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Best<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Stephen Spence <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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individual-members-el-bounces@listi.jpberlin.de
[mailto:individual-members-el-bounces@listi.jpberlin.de] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Norbert Hagemann<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 22 February 2012 19:04<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Maite Mola<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b>
giorgos.karatsioubanis@european-left.org; <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Indiv.
Members EL</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re:
[Individual-members-EL] FW: Re: letter to all EL partiesregarding individual
members</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Dear Maite Mola,<br>
could you please be so kind and inform us about the debate on us as individual
Members in secretariat meeting you mentioned in your mail.<br>
We are very keen to push forward this issue to a positive solution within a
reasonable timeframe.<br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
<br>
Norbert Hagemann<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold'>Von:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> "Maite
Mola" <maite.mola@european-left.org><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Gesendet:</span></b> 31.01.2012 13:47:28<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>An:</span></b> "Norbert Hagemann"
<norberthagemann@web.de><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Betreff:</span></b> Re: FW: Re: letter to all
EL parties regarding individual members<br>
<br>
Dear Norbert, dear all, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>We have decided in the ex board of <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Berlin</st1:place></st1:State>, to discuss about the
situation of the individual members in the EL in the secretariat of the 4
February.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>I'll write you next week about it and inform you!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Maite Mola<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Vice-President<br>
European Left Office<br>
Rue Parnasse 30<br>
B-1050 Bruxelles<br>
Phone: +32.2.5022- 606<br>
Fax: +32.2.5020 -173<br>
E-Mail: <a href="mailto:maite.mola@european-left.org">maite.mola@european-left.org</a><br>
Web: <a href="http://www.european-left.org/">http://www.european-left.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>2012/1/10 Maite Mola <<a
href="mailto:maitemola@gmail.com">maitemola@gmail.com</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Dear
Norbert,<br>
Ill send your letter tomorrow to the Secretariat of the EL, and I ll inform you
about our decision after our meeting in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Berlin</st1:place></st1:State>.<br>
Regards,<br>
Maite Mola<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>El 10/01/2012 21:17, "Norbert Hagemann" <<a
href="mailto:norberthagemann@web.de">norberthagemann@web.de</a>> escribió: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Verdana'>Dear Maite Mola,<br>
<br>
before the last EL EX-Board meeting in early October I sent a letter to
Pierre Laurant (using his PCF mail account) which was discussed between the
individual members using our mail list and at the end signed by eight of us
from different countries. The letter deals with the problem of our formal
rights within the EL, reflecting our situation and making proposals how to deal
with in the near future. As of today there is neither a reply nor a
confirmation of receipt and so we sent the same letter to Giorgios
Karatsioubanis within the EL office in <st1:City w:st="on">Brussels</st1:City>
asking him to distribute the letter to all parties of the European Left and to
discuss this issue on the next meeting in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Berlin</st1:place></st1:State>.<br>
<br>
We asked at the same time to include within the upcoming budget for
the year 2012 an amount of money for a meeting which should be organized
to discuss between us the way out of this situation and to organize
our work within the EL.<br>
<br>
<br>
Giorgios Karatsioubanis asked me to resent this letter to you as coordinator of
the EL Executive Board. I hope you will support our request indipendently from
the question would you be personaly in favour or not of the individual
membership.<br>
<br>
Thank's for that.<br>
<br>
Warm regards<br>
<br>
Norbert Hagemann<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<br>
Von: "Giorgos Karatsioubanis" <<a
href="mailto:giorgos.karatsioubanis@european-left.org">giorgos.karatsioubanis@european-left.org</a>><br>
Gesendet: 09-Jan-2012 17:39:09<br>
An: "Norbert Hagemann" <<a href="mailto:norberthagemann@web.de">norberthagemann@web.de</a>><br>
Betreff: Re: letter to all EL parties regarding individual members<br>
<br>
Dear Norbert,<br>
<br>
I have received your letter, and after having a first discussion on it,<br>
i would like to ask you to direct the email to Maite Mola, as<br>
coordinator of the Executive Board of the EL. Her email is:<br>
<a href="mailto:maitemola@gmail.com">maitemola@gmail.com</a><br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Giorgos Karatsioubanis<br>
<br>
<br>
ps. i have to inform you, after speaking with them, that the office of<br>
Pierre Laurent did not receive any letter on this matter before the ExB<br>
meeting in <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Paris</st1:place></st1:City>.
For future messages to Pierre Laurent, please send<br>
them also to Anne Sabourin <a href="mailto:asabourin@pcf.fr">asabourin@pcf.fr</a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:18:13 +0100 (CET), Norbert Hagemann wrote:<br>
> Dear Giorgios Karatsioubanis,<br>
> could you please be so kind and confirm us that you got the letter.<br>
> We would be interested to hear from you, if you would be so kind and<br>
> forward the letter and the request as proposed by us.<br>
><br>
> Thanks for your support. Please be so kind and keep us informed<br>
> about<br>
> your activities regarding this letter.<br>
><br>
> Sincerely<br>
><br>
> Norbert<br>
><br>
>> -------------------------<br>
>> VON: "Norbert Hagemann"<br>
>> GESENDET: 25-Dec-2011 22:04:30<br>
>> AN: <a href="mailto:giorgos.karatsioubanis@european-left.org">giorgos.karatsioubanis@european-left.org</a><br>
>> BETREFF: letter to all EL parties regarding individual members<br>
>><br>
>> Dear Giorgios Karatsioubanis,<br>
>> enclosed I send you a letter which was signed by eight individual<br>
>> EL members from different countries. The letter deals with the<br>
>> problem of the rights of individual members apart and was sent by us<br>
>> to Pierre Laurant before the last EL EX-Board meeting in early<br>
>> October. To date, neither a reply nor a confirmation of receipt is<br>
>> received.<br>
>><br>
>> Since you as "employee" of EL are also responsible for us,
the<br>
>> individual members, we want to ask you officially to give this<br>
>> letter to all member and observer parties of the EL at the latest<br>
>> till the next Board meeting in January in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Berlin</st1:place></st1:State>. We hope that this<br>
>> letter will be formaly put on the agenda and discussed during this<br>
>> meeting.<br>
>><br>
>> At the same time we want to ask you, to communicate to all parties<br>
>> our request, that in the upcoming budget of the EL for the year 2012<br>
>> we would like to have introduced a reasonable amount of money for an<br>
>> European meeting of individual members to be organized next year<br>
>> with the aim to discuss and organize our work within the EL. The<br>
>> existing working structures for cooperation of the trade unionists<br>
>> or the EL-FEM-structures are well established examples how we would<br>
>> like to go ahead in the future.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks for your support. Please be so kind and keep us informed<br>
>> about your activities regarding this letter.<br>
>><br>
>> Sincerely<br>
>><br>
>> Norbert<br>
<br>
--<br>
Party of the European Left<br>
EL Office, Giorgos Karatsioubanis<br>
30 Rue Parnasse<br>
1050 Bruxelles<br>
<st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Belgium</st1:place></st1:country-region><br>
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email: <a href="mailto:giorgos.karatsioubanis@european-left.org">giorgos.karatsioubanis@european-left.org</a><br>
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font-family:Verdana'>--<br>
Maite Mola<br>
Vice-President<br>
European Left Office<br>
Rue Parnasse 30<br>
B-1050 Bruxelles<br>
Phone: +32.2.5022- 606<br>
Fax: +32.2.5020 -173<br>
E-Mail: <a href="mailto:maite.mola@european-left.org">maite.mola@european-left.org</a><br>
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