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<DIV><FONT size=2>Dear Mario, dear friends,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>i am in hurry..thats why in short term: This network of
individual members was founded in 2006 during the first EL Summer
University in Tavira/Portugal.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>You are right when you say that there are several countries
where memberparties of the EL existing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>But: We understand the EL not as "umbrella organization"
of national parties. Now its not more than this - unfortunately.
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<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>On the one hand its nice to have an EL to form new
organizations in these countries where no memberparties exist. But thats not our
main point. On the other hand its needed to have a more powerful united
left at the european level. The national parties focus too much on the
national level - what we need is a European Left and a european movement if we
realy want to change something. I have not the time to explain widely now - but
we had this discussion on this list earlier in detail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>We live in times where many of the political decisions
disposed on the european level.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>The left in most countries is very "national" orientated - and
of course extremly defensive. (at least here in germany)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>The EL is not realy existing for people. If i ask here in
Leipzig about the EL nobody knows about it. Also if i ask the members of
Die Linke nearly nobody knows about the EL.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>We want a strong European Left that is also visible
for people. We need more than that traditional national party
structures.</FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>I think that the individual membership is one step to break
that old national partystructures. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Ok, thats for now.. perhaps someone else can explain more
widely.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Best regards,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>Mike</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2>PS: We had already older discussions on exactly the same
thing.. but i didnt found it so fast.. (Archive of the list: <A
href="https://listi.jpberlin.de/pipermail/individual-members-el/">https://listi.jpberlin.de/pipermail/individual-members-el/</A>)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Mike Nagler<BR>Körnerplatz 8<BR>04107 Leipzig</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>Mob: 0179 - 96 19 584<BR>@ : <A
href="mailto:mnle@gmx.net">mnle@gmx.net</A></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=marioaliciagm@yahoo.es href="mailto:marioaliciagm@yahoo.es">Mario
& Alicia Gabrielli</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 06, 2009 7:37
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Individual-members-EL] (no
subject)</DIV>
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<DIV>Dear comrades,</DIV>
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<DIV>I'm Mario, an Italian-Spaniard living in Brussels, member of
Rifondazione Comunista in Belgium (see <A
href="http://www.rifondazione.be">www.rifondazione.be</A>). I was
following the discussion, as usual, and in this case I would like to say
something on the question of EL Individual Members, organisation, claim
for recognition and support, and so on.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sincerely, I do not understand the real meaning, and above all, the
real need and utility, to have such "individual members" groups - apart
when in a specific country there is no party or organisation as member
or observer of the European Left Party. But in a lot of European
countries, we do have at least one party, so, my question is: why create
someting "new" or "different" when something already exist? Why don't
give them a hand, instead of re-investing the wheel? If someone want to
engage him/herself in political/social activities in the framework of
the EL, why don't join a EL party somewhere?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I hope that the idea of "individual members" groups outside the
local EL parties would not mean to be "against" or "overcoming"
those parties... Of course I don't think that a party is the only
or exclusive way to "make politics" and to be engaged in social issues,
but at the same time I don't share some negative attitudes towards
political parties, which lead someone to think that only in an informal
organisation it would be possible to be "free" or "independent".</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>In my opinion, if we want to do something for a better Europe, as
leftists (or, even better, as communists!), let's join one of the
political parties members of the EL; or even one not a
member, and in this case, we can try to contribute to approach
positions - instead of dividing our forces and losing time,
resources and efforts in defining what an "individual members" group
should do or not, what representativity, what right of vote, what
support, what... what?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I take the opportunity to confirm that the Italian
communists - Rifondazione Comunista and Comunisti Italiani, in the
EL as member and observer respectively - partecipate together to the
European elections, in the Communist and Anti-capitalist list <A
href="http://www.unaltraeuropa.eu/">http://www.unaltraeuropa.eu/</A>.
This is the only real Left in Italy... beware of imitations!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Fraternally,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Mario</DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>
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