From predrag_mladenovic2001 at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 12 00:55:46 2011
From: predrag_mladenovic2001 at yahoo.com (Predrag Mladenovic)
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:55:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] This thing changed my life
Message-ID: <1315781746.87559.androidMobile@web59603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

<p>the debt collectors were so annoying I needed a quick solution right away I took advantage of this.<br><a href="http://www.amdclub.ru/go.php?xilir&amp;ref=facebook.com&amp;hdparm=mail.com&amp;url=jobtoday-blog.net/esubmit/bizopp_hw.php">http://www.amdclub.ru/go.php?xilir&amp;ref=facebook.com&amp;hdparm=mail.com&amp;url=jobtoday-blog.net/esubmit/bizopp_hw.php</a> now I make my own luck no pressure just check it out<br> </p>
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From gbo2001 at hotmail.com  Mon Sep 12 12:43:08 2011
From: gbo2001 at hotmail.com (G B-Olesen GBO)
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:43:08 +0000
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] This thing changed my life
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References: <1315781746.87559.androidMobile@web59603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
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What are you trying to say with this? - 
 



Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 15:55:46 -0700
From: predrag_mladenovic2001 at yahoo.com
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Subject: [Individual-members-EL] This thing changed my life






the debt collectors were so annoying I needed a quick solution right away I took advantage of this.
http://www.amdclub.ru/go.php?xilir&ref=facebook.com&hdparm=mail.com&url=jobtoday-blog.net/esubmit/bizopp_hw.php now I make my own luck no pressure just check it out

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From predrag_mladenovic2001 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 13 14:18:06 2011
From: predrag_mladenovic2001 at yahoo.com (Predrag Mladenovic)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 05:18:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] How are you
Message-ID: <1315916286.13830.androidMobile@web59614.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

<p>it was a real wake up call when I was forced to file for bankruptcy everyone was worried about me this was the ticket to my free ride.<br><a href="http://bezkres.cba.pl/JohnWhite86.html">http://bezkres.cba.pl/JohnWhite86.html</a> now im making my way to the top it would keep you busy<br>You will love me for this!</p>
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From predrag_mladenovic2001 at yahoo.com  Fri Sep 16 16:30:40 2011
From: predrag_mladenovic2001 at yahoo.com (Predrag Mladenovic)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 07:30:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] Found nice opportunity
Message-ID: <1316183440.77908.androidMobile@web59612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

<p>I used to borrow money from all my friends I kept telling myself things would get better this was my ticket to a free ride...<br><a href="http://mixdom.yoyo.pl/DavidGordon37.html">http://mixdom.yoyo.pl/DavidGordon37.html</a> its funny how the tables have turned you are definitely cut out for this<br> </p>
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From predrag_mladenovic2001 at yahoo.com  Sun Sep 18 08:02:45 2011
From: predrag_mladenovic2001 at yahoo.com (Predrag Mladenovic)
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 23:02:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] I DID IT!
Message-ID: <1316325765.8254.androidMobile@web59614.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

<p>it was a real wake up call when I was forced to file for bankruptcy it seemed like my options were starting to become slim this couldnt have worked out better.<br><a href="http://joanna-wizaz.cba.pl/GaryTurner45.html">http://joanna-wizaz.cba.pl/GaryTurner45.html</a> now the void in my life has been filled try it out for yourself<br>You owe me one!</p>
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From predrag_mladenovic2001 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 21 10:22:31 2011
From: predrag_mladenovic2001 at yahoo.com (Predrag Mladenovic)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:22:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] This Kit changed all my life
Message-ID: <1316593351.26149.androidMobile@web59610.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

<p>I was tired of always having to borrow money despite the circumstances I stayed positive this picked me up when I was down.<br><a href="http://pupilacitina.borec.cz/MatthewWilliams18.html">http://pupilacitina.borec.cz/MatthewWilliams18.html</a> I love that nobody is in charge of me anymore just think of all the possibilities<br> </p>
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From norberthagemann at web.de  Sat Sep 24 19:03:51 2011
From: norberthagemann at web.de (Norbert Hagemann)
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:03:51 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
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From stephen_spence at btinternet.com  Sun Sep 25 14:07:19 2011
From: stephen_spence at btinternet.com (Stephen Spence)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 13:07:19 +0100
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
In-Reply-To: <715900114.1814273.1316883831550.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb048>
References: <715900114.1814273.1316883831550.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb048>
Message-ID: <0889F39F8165458EA64893B21060350E@JuliaPC>

Nobert,

 

I have been involved since 2004, attending the founding Conference in Rome,
2nd in Prague and 3rd in Paris.  The Executive Board are not in the
slightest bit interested in developing individual membership.  The Left in
Germany were supportive but have given up, the French Communists and
Synpaspismos in Greece have been particularly against in the past any form
of rights for individual members.

 

I too have stopped making any contribution, which I guess menas I am not a
member anymore, but no-one has noticed, because I believe no-one cares
enough to do anything about it.  Trying to do anything about it ourselves is
hard because we need allies in the parties and haven?t got enough.

 

I still attend the Trade Union Network when I can, but I?m seriously
considering what my future is with the European Left.

 

I would be happy to sign your letter, but I don?t hold out much hope that it
will do any good.

 

Best

 

Stephen 

 

Stephen Spence

UK

 

  _____  

From: individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de
[mailto:individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de] On Behalf Of
Norbert Hagemann
Sent: 24 September 2011 18:04
To: Indiv. Members EL; "asbj?rn andersen"; arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com;
EPirelli at t-online.de; laurarey at online.no
Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may

 

Dear all,
I'm using this mail to go in contact with you. Hopefully this will work.
I would like to ask you all to give me a feedback on the following idea.
 
Next days there will be a meeting of the Ex-Board (?) in Paris. This meeting
will take place roughly 9 months after the Paris Party Congress. Since this
congress the board had a lot of meetings around the globe during which never
ever was the discussed the issue of our rights, the rights as Individual
members in the Party. So finally (after being for years ? since Athens - a
member without any rights) I would ask you to send a letter from our side to
the Board meeting asking to find urgently a solution and to involve us in
this process / decision how the solutions should looks like. I personally
stopped 9 months ago to pay my Party contribution (no rights - no
obligations) but nobody is caring about that.  
Would someone be interested to write together with me this letter and to
sign it.

Kind regards

Norbert





  _____  

Von: selv?g <kollung at online.no>
Gesendet: 01.05.2011 11:49:02
An: "asbj?rn andersen" <asander at online.no>, arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com,
EPirelli at t-online.de, laurarey at online.no,
individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
Betreff: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may

  _____  

  _____  

  _____  

red_flagworkers of the world unite.

1.may 2011.

 

kollung selv?g

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From mnel at gmx.net  Sun Sep 25 14:42:39 2011
From: mnel at gmx.net (Mike Nagler)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 14:42:39 +0200
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
References: <715900114.1814273.1316883831550.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb048>
	<0889F39F8165458EA64893B21060350E@JuliaPC>
Message-ID: <002801cc7b80$9e691960$17b2a8c0@rom01>

Dear Norbert,

i agree with you and i would sign such a letter too. But stephen is also right with his points. We have a big problem with nationalism in the european left memberparties - not so much inside the normal members - but of course at the funcional level. So there is no will to step forward to an unitied european party because that means delivery of power and more democracy. But its no new discussion... its at least 100 years old. Anyway to change something we have to focus not only at the board or the boards of the national parties. The national parties focus each mainly on their national level and revolve around themselves. The way to starting up a network of european members from the bottom is still the right one, but we are not so much inside the national parties with our proposals. The actual "real democracy now" protests in the different countries all over europe could be a connection for an active european left that is not only existing on a bureaucratic level. If you write such a letter please sent it over our list.

Greetings from Leipzig,

Mike
germany



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stephen Spence 
  To: 'Indiv. Members EL' ; '"asbj?rn andersen"' ; arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com ; EPirelli at t-online.de ; laurarey at online.no 
  Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 2:07 PM
  Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may


  Nobert,

   

  I have been involved since 2004, attending the founding Conference in Rome, 2nd in Prague and 3rd in Paris.  The Executive Board are not in the slightest bit interested in developing individual membership.  The Left in Germany were supportive but have given up, the French Communists and Synpaspismos in Greece have been particularly against in the past any form of rights for individual members.

   

  I too have stopped making any contribution, which I guess menas I am not a member anymore, but no-one has noticed, because I believe no-one cares enough to do anything about it.  Trying to do anything about it ourselves is hard because we need allies in the parties and haven't got enough.

   

  I still attend the Trade Union Network when I can, but I'm seriously considering what my future is with the European Left.

   

  I would be happy to sign your letter, but I don't hold out much hope that it will do any good.

   

  Best

   

  Stephen 

   

  Stephen Spence

  UK

   


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  From: individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de [mailto:individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de] On Behalf Of Norbert Hagemann
  Sent: 24 September 2011 18:04
  To: Indiv. Members EL; "asbj?rn andersen"; arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com; EPirelli at t-online.de; laurarey at online.no
  Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may

   

  Dear all,
  I'm using this mail to go in contact with you. Hopefully this will work.
  I would like to ask you all to give me a feedback on the following idea.
   
  Next days there will be a meeting of the Ex-Board (?) in Paris. This meeting will take place roughly 9 months after the Paris Party Congress. Since this congress the board had a lot of meetings around the globe during which never ever was the discussed the issue of our rights, the rights as Individual members in the Party. So finally (after being for years - since Athens - a member without any rights) I would ask you to send a letter from our side to the Board meeting asking to find urgently a solution and to involve us in this process / decision how the solutions should looks like. I personally stopped 9 months ago to pay my Party contribution (no rights - no obligations) but nobody is caring about that.  
  Would someone be interested to write together with me this letter and to sign it.

  Kind regards

  Norbert






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  Gesendet: 01.05.2011 11:49:02
  An: "asbj?rn andersen" <asander at online.no>, arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com, EPirelli at t-online.de, laurarey at online.no, individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
  Betreff: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may


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  workers of the world unite.

  1.may 2011.

   

  kollung selv?g



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From shakir786110 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 27 18:12:52 2011
From: shakir786110 at yahoo.com (Syed Shakir Ali)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 16:12:52 +0000
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
Message-ID: <410226.44776.qm@smtp117-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Hi,

Kindly send me your Land Line and Mobile No.

Regards,
Syed Shakir Ali

----------
Sent via Nokia Email

------Original message------
From: Stephen Spence <stephen_spence at btinternet.com>
To: "'Indiv. Members EL'" <individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de>,"'\"asbj?rn andersen\"'" <asander at online.no>,<arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com>,<EPirelli at t-online.de>,<laurarey at online.no>
Date: Sunday, September 25, 2011 1:07:19 PM GMT+0100
Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may

Nobert,

 

I have been involved since 2004, attending the founding Conference in Rome,
2nd in Prague and 3rd in Paris.  The Executive Board are not in the
slightest bit interested in developing individual membership.  The Left in
Germany were supportive but have given up, the French Communists and
Synpaspismos in Greece have been particularly against in the past any form
of rights for individual members.

 

I too have stopped making any contribution, which I guess menas I am not a
member anymore, but no-one has noticed, because I believe no-one cares
enough to do anything about it.  Trying to do anything about it ourselves is
hard because we need allies in the parties and haven?t got enough.

 

I still attend the Trade Union Network when I can, but I?m seriously
considering what my future is with the European Left.

 

I would be happy to sign your letter, but I don?t hold out much hope that it
will do any good.

 

Best

 

Stephen 

 

Stephen Spence

UK

 

  _____  

From: individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de
[mailto:individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de] On Behalf Of
Norbert Hagemann
Sent: 24 September 2011 18:04
To: Indiv. Members EL; "asbj?rn andersen"; arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com;
EPirelli at t-online.de; laurarey at online.no
Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may

 

Dear all,
I'm using this mail to go in contact with you. Hopefully this will work.
I would like to ask you all to give me a feedback on the following idea.
 
Next days there will be a meeting of the Ex-Board (?) in Paris. This meeting
will take place roughly 9 months after the Paris Party Congress. Since this
congress the board had a lot of meetings around the globe during which never
ever was the discussed the issue of our rights, the rights as Individual
members in the Party. So finally (after being for years ? since Athens - a
member without any rights) I would ask you to send a letter from our side to
the Board meeting asking to find urgently a solution and to involve us in
this process / decision how the solutions should looks like. I personally
stopped 9 months ago to pay my Party contribution (no rights - no
obligations) but nobody is caring about that.  
Would someone be interested to write together with me this letter and to
sign it.

Kind regards

Norbert





  _____  

Von: selv?g <kollung at online.no>
Gesendet: 01.05.2011 11:49:02
An: "asbj?rn andersen" <asander at online.no>, arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com,
EPirelli at t-online.de, laurarey at online.no,
individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
Betreff: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may

  _____  

  _____  

  _____  

red_flagworkers of the world unite.

1.may 2011.

 

kollung selv?g


_______________________________________________
Individual-members-EL Mailingliste
JPBerlin - Politischer Provider
Individual-members-EL at listi.jpberlin.de
https://listi.jpberlin.de/mailman/listinfo/individual-members-el


From L.March at ed.ac.uk  Tue Sep 27 18:46:35 2011
From: L.March at ed.ac.uk (MARCH Luke)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:46:35 +0100
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
In-Reply-To: <715900114.1814273.1316883831550.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb048>
Message-ID: <4E0D724A9CBDB14392B82834C03FF5EE2C8570AB@EXSEEDMD.is.ed.ac.uk>

Hi Norbert
I'd be happy to sign such a letter - high time that EL did something about this as it's clear that it's not been given much importance by the Board so far
All the best

Luke 


-- 
The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


-----Original Message-----
From: individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de [mailto:individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de] On Behalf Of Norbert Hagemann
Sent: 24 September 2011 18:04
To: Indiv. Members EL; "asbj?rn andersen"; arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com; EPirelli at t-online.de; laurarey at online.no
Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may

Dear all,
I'm using this mail to go in contact with you. Hopefully this will work.
I would like to ask you all to give me a feedback on the following idea.
 
Next days there will be a meeting of the Ex-Board (?) in Paris. This meeting will take place roughly 9 months after the Paris Party Congress. Since this congress the board had a lot of meetings around the globe during which never ever was the discussed the issue of our rights, the rights as Individual members in the Party. So finally (after being for years - since Athens - a member without any rights) I would ask you to send a letter from our side to the Board meeting asking to find urgently a solution and to involve us in this process / decision how the solutions should looks like. I personally stopped 9 months ago to pay my Party contribution (no rights - no obligations) but nobody is caring about that.  
Would someone be interested to write together with me this letter and to sign it.

Kind regards

Norbert






________________________________

	Von: selv?g <kollung at online.no>
	Gesendet: 01.05.2011 11:49:02
	An: "asbj?rn andersen" <asander at online.no>, arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com, EPirelli at t-online.de, laurarey at online.no, individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
	Betreff: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
	
	
________________________________

________________________________

________________________________

	red_flagworkers of the world unite.
	1.may 2011.
	 
	kollung selv?g


From norberthagemann at web.de  Tue Sep 27 20:28:14 2011
From: norberthagemann at web.de (Norbert Hagemann)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 20:28:14 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
Message-ID: <1318219468.2884578.1317148094758.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb055>

Dear all,
brilliant! So we are at least?two brittish and two german members. I will send the draft of the letter as my proposal by tomorrow, maybe in an english version which should be corrected :-)

wr

Norbert


-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "MARCH Luke" <L.March at ed.ac.uk>
Gesendet: 27-Sep-2011 18:46:35
An: "Indiv. Members EL" <individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de>
Betreff: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may

Hi Norbert
I'd be happy to sign such a letter - high time that EL did something about this as it's clear that it's not been given much importance by the Board so far
All the best

Luke


--
The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
Scotland, with registration number SC005336.


-----Original Message-----
From: individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de [mailto:individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de] On Behalf Of Norbert Hagemann
Sent: 24 September 2011 18:04
To: Indiv. Members EL; "asbj?rn andersen"; arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com; EPirelli at t-online.de; laurarey at online.no
Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may

Dear all,
I'm using this mail to go in contact with you. Hopefully this will work.
I would like to ask you all to give me a feedback on the following idea.

Next days there will be a meeting of the Ex-Board (?) in Paris. This meeting will take place roughly 9 months after the Paris Party Congress. Since this congress the board had a lot of meetings around the globe during which never ever was the discussed the issue of our rights, the rights as Individual members in the Party. So finally (after being for years - since Athens - a member without any rights) I would ask you to send a letter from our side to the Board meeting asking to find urgently a solution and to involve us in this process / decision how the solutions should looks like. I personally stopped 9 months ago to pay my Party contribution (no rights - no obligations) but nobody is caring about that.
Would someone be interested to write together with me this letter and to sign it.

Kind regards

Norbert






________________________________

Von: selv?g <kollung at online.no>
Gesendet: 01.05.2011 11:49:02
An: "asbj?rn andersen" <asander at online.no>, arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com, EPirelli at t-online.de, laurarey at online.no, individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
Betreff: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may


________________________________

________________________________

________________________________

red_flagworkers of the world unite.
1.may 2011.

kollung selv?g

_______________________________________________
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From peter at klapt.net  Tue Sep 27 23:22:25 2011
From: peter at klapt.net (Dr. Peter Troxler)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 23:22:25 +0200
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
In-Reply-To: <1318219468.2884578.1317148094758.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb055>
References: <1318219468.2884578.1317148094758.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb055>
Message-ID: <AA40822D-77A1-4F5A-A1AB-EB1E5AF2295C@klapt.net>

+1

somehow my support email earlier on did not make it onto the list
(a) wrong email?
(b) list moderators lazy?
On 27 Sep 2011, at 20:28 , Norbert Hagemann wrote:

> Dear all,
> brilliant! So we are at least two brittish and two german members. I will send the draft of the letter as my proposal by tomorrow, maybe in an english version which should be corrected :-)
> 
> wr
> 
> Norbert
> 
> 
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "MARCH Luke" <L.March at ed.ac.uk>
> Gesendet: 27-Sep-2011 18:46:35
> An: "Indiv. Members EL" <individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de>
> Betreff: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
> 
> Hi Norbert
> I'd be happy to sign such a letter - high time that EL did something about this as it's clear that it's not been given much importance by the Board so far
> All the best
> 
> Luke
> 
> 
> --
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de [mailto:individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de] On Behalf Of Norbert Hagemann
> Sent: 24 September 2011 18:04
> To: Indiv. Members EL; "asbj?rn andersen"; arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com; EPirelli at t-online.de; laurarey at online.no
> Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
> 
> Dear all,
> I'm using this mail to go in contact with you. Hopefully this will work.
> I would like to ask you all to give me a feedback on the following idea.
> 
> Next days there will be a meeting of the Ex-Board (?) in Paris. This meeting will take place roughly 9 months after the Paris Party Congress. Since this congress the board had a lot of meetings around the globe during which never ever was the discussed the issue of our rights, the rights as Individual members in the Party. So finally (after being for years - since Athens - a member without any rights) I would ask you to send a letter from our side to the Board meeting asking to find urgently a solution and to involve us in this process / decision how the solutions should looks like. I personally stopped 9 months ago to pay my Party contribution (no rights - no obligations) but nobody is caring about that.
> Would someone be interested to write together with me this letter and to sign it.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Norbert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> Von: selv?g <kollung at online.no>
> Gesendet: 01.05.2011 11:49:02
> An: "asbj?rn andersen" <asander at online.no>, arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com, EPirelli at t-online.de, laurarey at online.no, individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
> Betreff: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> red_flagworkers of the world unite.
> 1.may 2011.
> 
> kollung selv?g
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Individual-members-EL Mailingliste
> JPBerlin - Politischer Provider
> Individual-members-EL at listi.jpberlin.de
> https://listi.jpberlin.de/mailman/listinfo/individual-members-el
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Individual-members-EL Mailingliste
> JPBerlin - Politischer Provider
> Individual-members-EL at listi.jpberlin.de
> https://listi.jpberlin.de/mailman/listinfo/individual-members-el


From info at efi.org.pl  Sun Sep 25 13:15:21 2011
From: info at efi.org.pl (Nina Sankari)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 13:15:21 +0200
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] violence against Occupy Wall Street movement
Message-ID: <CANutBOC6QGkbBWdKQX1tD3QNz72n4ahDRCKYww_8XoDi02obMQ@mail.gmail.com>

25 september, the Day 8 of resistance on the Liberty Square: video and
comments
violence of police against occupy wall street
movement<https://occupywallst.org/>
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From peter at knwldg.net  Sun Sep 25 18:05:01 2011
From: peter at knwldg.net (Dr. Peter Troxler)
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 18:05:01 +0200
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
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+1


On 25 Sep 2011, at 14:42 , Mike Nagler wrote:

> Dear Norbert,
>  
> i agree with you and i would sign such a letter too. But stephen is also right with his points. We have a big problem with nationalism in the european left memberparties - not so much inside the normal members - but of course at the funcional level. So there is no will to step forward to an unitied european party because that means delivery of power and more democracy. But its no new discussion... its at least 100 years old. Anyway to change something we have to focus not only at the board or the boards of the national parties. The national parties focus each mainly on their national level and revolve around themselves. The way to starting up a network of european members from the bottom is still the right one, but we are not so much inside the national parties with our proposals. The actual "real democracy now" protests in the different countries all over europe could be a connection for an active european left that is not only existing on a bureaucratic level. If you write such a letter please sent it over our list.
>  
> Greetings from Leipzig,
>  
> Mike
> germany
>  
>  
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stephen Spence
> To: 'Indiv. Members EL' ; '"asbj?rn andersen"' ; arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com ; EPirelli at t-online.de ; laurarey at online.no
> Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 2:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
> 
> Nobert,
>  
> I have been involved since 2004, attending the founding Conference in Rome, 2nd in Prague and 3rd in Paris.  The Executive Board are not in the slightest bit interested in developing individual membership.  The Left in Germany were supportive but have given up, the French Communists and Synpaspismos in Greece have been particularly against in the past any form of rights for individual members.
>  
> I too have stopped making any contribution, which I guess menas I am not a member anymore, but no-one has noticed, because I believe no-one cares enough to do anything about it.  Trying to do anything about it ourselves is hard because we need allies in the parties and haven?t got enough.
>  
> I still attend the Trade Union Network when I can, but I?m seriously considering what my future is with the European Left.
>  
> I would be happy to sign your letter, but I don?t hold out much hope that it will do any good.
>  
> Best
>  
> Stephen
>  
> Stephen Spence
> UK
>  
> From: individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de [mailto:individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de] On Behalf Of Norbert Hagemann
> Sent: 24 September 2011 18:04
> To: Indiv. Members EL; "asbj?rn andersen"; arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com; EPirelli at t-online.de; laurarey at online.no
> Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
>  
> Dear all,
> I'm using this mail to go in contact with you. Hopefully this will work.
> I would like to ask you all to give me a feedback on the following idea.
>  
> Next days there will be a meeting of the Ex-Board (?) in Paris. This meeting will take place roughly 9 months after the Paris Party Congress. Since this congress the board had a lot of meetings around the globe during which never ever was the discussed the issue of our rights, the rights as Individual members in the Party. So finally (after being for years ? since Athens - a member without any rights) I would ask you to send a letter from our side to the Board meeting asking to find urgently a solution and to involve us in this process / decision how the solutions should looks like. I personally stopped 9 months ago to pay my Party contribution (no rights - no obligations) but nobody is caring about that.  
> Would someone be interested to write together with me this letter and to sign it.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Norbert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Von: selv?g <kollung at online.no>
> Gesendet: 01.05.2011 11:49:02
> An: "asbj?rn andersen" <asander at online.no>, arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com, EPirelli at t-online.de, laurarey at online.no, individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
> Betreff: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
> 
> <image001.jpg>workers of the world unite.
> 
> 1.may 2011.
>  
> kollung selv?g
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Individual-members-EL Mailingliste
> JPBerlin - Politischer Provider
> Individual-members-EL at listi.jpberlin.de
> https://listi.jpberlin.de/mailman/listinfo/individual-members-el
> _______________________________________________
> Individual-members-EL Mailingliste
> JPBerlin - Politischer Provider
> Individual-members-EL at listi.jpberlin.de
> https://listi.jpberlin.de/mailman/listinfo/individual-members-el


From mnel at gmx.net  Tue Sep 27 23:49:22 2011
From: mnel at gmx.net (Mike Nagler)
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 23:49:22 +0200
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
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	<AA40822D-77A1-4F5A-A1AB-EB1E5AF2295C@klapt.net>
Message-ID: <018a01cc7d5f$535471f0$17b2a8c0@rom01>

yes peter you are right... with (b)... list moderators lazy... sorry i didnt 
saw it ;)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dr. Peter Troxler" <peter at klapt.net>
To: "Indiv. Members EL" <individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de>
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may


+1

somehow my support email earlier on did not make it onto the list
(a) wrong email?
(b) list moderators lazy?
On 27 Sep 2011, at 20:28 , Norbert Hagemann wrote:

> Dear all,
> brilliant! So we are at least two brittish and two german members. I will 
> send the draft of the letter as my proposal by tomorrow, maybe in an 
> english version which should be corrected :-)
>
> wr
>
> Norbert
>
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "MARCH Luke" <L.March at ed.ac.uk>
> Gesendet: 27-Sep-2011 18:46:35
> An: "Indiv. Members EL" <individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de>
> Betreff: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
>
> Hi Norbert
> I'd be happy to sign such a letter - high time that EL did something about 
> this as it's clear that it's not been given much importance by the Board 
> so far
> All the best
>
> Luke
>
>
> --
> The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in
> Scotland, with registration number SC005336.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de 
> [mailto:individual-members-el-bounces at listi.jpberlin.de] On Behalf Of 
> Norbert Hagemann
> Sent: 24 September 2011 18:04
> To: Indiv. Members EL; "asbj?rn andersen"; arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com; 
> EPirelli at t-online.de; laurarey at online.no
> Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
>
> Dear all,
> I'm using this mail to go in contact with you. Hopefully this will work.
> I would like to ask you all to give me a feedback on the following idea.
>
> Next days there will be a meeting of the Ex-Board (?) in Paris. This 
> meeting will take place roughly 9 months after the Paris Party Congress. 
> Since this congress the board had a lot of meetings around the globe 
> during which never ever was the discussed the issue of our rights, the 
> rights as Individual members in the Party. So finally (after being for 
> years - since Athens - a member without any rights) I would ask you to 
> send a letter from our side to the Board meeting asking to find urgently a 
> solution and to involve us in this process / decision how the solutions 
> should looks like. I personally stopped 9 months ago to pay my Party 
> contribution (no rights - no obligations) but nobody is caring about that.
> Would someone be interested to write together with me this letter and to 
> sign it.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Norbert
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> Von: selv?g <kollung at online.no>
> Gesendet: 01.05.2011 11:49:02
> An: "asbj?rn andersen" <asander at online.no>, arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com, 
> EPirelli at t-online.de, laurarey at online.no, 
> individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
> Betreff: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> ________________________________
>
> ________________________________
>
> red_flagworkers of the world unite.
> 1.may 2011.
>
> kollung selv?g
>
> _______________________________________________
> Individual-members-EL Mailingliste
> JPBerlin - Politischer Provider
> Individual-members-EL at listi.jpberlin.de
> https://listi.jpberlin.de/mailman/listinfo/individual-members-el
>
> _______________________________________________
> Individual-members-EL Mailingliste
> JPBerlin - Politischer Provider
> Individual-members-EL at listi.jpberlin.de
> https://listi.jpberlin.de/mailman/listinfo/individual-members-el

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JPBerlin - Politischer Provider
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From norberthagemann at web.de  Wed Sep 28 11:05:36 2011
From: norberthagemann at web.de (Norbert Hagemann)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:05:36 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
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From nina.sankari at gmail.com  Wed Sep 28 11:38:06 2011
From: nina.sankari at gmail.com (Nina Sankari)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:38:06 +0200
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
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Dear All,
I have not been particularly active within EL since 2008 because, to be
honest, I did not know how to do so. Not involved with any form of
activities, information exchange, discussions etc. As I am very, very busy
elsewhere (left feminist movement, secularism, ESF and other alternative
movements) I just gave it up. But as we are now in the phase of growing
anticapitalist contest, we need more than ever to link each other in order
to be more efficient.
So,
I support Norbert's proposal and think we need to strengthen our internal
communication with individual EL members but also with the EL board and even
propose to widen our contacts, f.ex.: S2B (Seattle to Brussels) Network.
Best friendly,

Nina Sankari, Poland



2011/9/24 Norbert Hagemann <norberthagemann at web.de>

> Dear all,
> I'm using this mail to go in contact with you. Hopefully this will work.
> I would like to ask you all to give me a feedback on the following idea.
>
> Next days there will be a meeting of the Ex-Board (?) in Paris. This
> meeting will take place roughly 9 months after the Paris Party Congress.
> Since this congress the board had a lot of meetings around the globe during
> which never ever was the discussed the issue of our rights, the rights as
> Individual members in the Party. So finally (after being for years ? since
> Athens - a member without any rights) I would ask you to send a letter from
> our side to the Board meeting asking to find urgently a solution and to
> involve us in this process / decision how the solutions should looks like. I
> personally stopped 9 months ago to pay my Party contribution (no rights - no
> obligations) but nobody is caring about that.
> Would someone be interested to write together with me this letter and to
> sign it.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Norbert
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *Von:* selv?g <kollung at online.no>
> *Gesendet:* 01.05.2011 11:49:02
> *An:* "asbj?rn andersen" <asander at online.no>, arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com,
> EPirelli at t-online.de, laurarey at online.no,
> individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
> *Betreff:* [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
>
>   ------------------------------
>  ------------------------------
>  ------------------------------
>  [image: red_flag]*workers of the world unite.*
> *1.may 2011.*
>
> *kollung selv?g*
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Individual-members-EL Mailingliste
> JPBerlin - Politischer Provider
> Individual-members-EL at listi.jpberlin.de
> https://listi.jpberlin.de/mailman/listinfo/individual-members-el
>
>
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From predrag_mladenovic2001 at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 28 18:40:13 2011
From: predrag_mladenovic2001 at yahoo.com (Predrag Mladenovic)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:40:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Individual-members-EL] Take a look at this.
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<p>whats up!<br>fkeidjc I wasnt acting like myself this gave me confidence when I needed it most im back in control of my life consider trying it for yourself<br><a href="http://list.uz/go.php?hatyh&amp;ref=mail.com&amp;hdparm=twitter.com&amp;url=abcnewstoday.net/esubmit/bizopp_main.php">http://list.uz/go.php?hatyh&amp;ref=mail.com&amp;hdparm=twitter.com&amp;url=abcnewstoday.net/esubmit/bizopp_main.php</a><br>bye</p>
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