[Individual-members-EL] R: Re: 1.may

Kuba Puchan kpuchan at wp.pl
Wed Oct 5 21:36:49 CEST 2011 

Dear Comrades

I am an individual member of the party for some time. I am a Pole and not really understand the situation described. For years, work in a free trade union August 80, where I learned to work and not complain. If you do not like the reality as a unionist, I try to change it ...
I have considerable reservations about the functioning of the Board of the European Left. For example, I do not understand why the German side for years blocked the cooperation of my trade union and has been supporting a fictitious organizscję Young Socialist - that in Poland there is no! political significance.
I have less and less like to admit to membership of the European Left.

regards KUBA Puchan



Dnia 5-10-2011 o godz. 7:02 Brunislav Matasović napisał(a):
> Dear all!
> 
> I would also like to support the initiative of individual members to
> become more involved in the work of EL. It would most certainly be the
> best if we try from the bottom and not from the top, as Mike already
> said. If there is a possibility inside the EL for us to get some support
> from the national member parties on this issue, it would be even better.
> Unfortunately, there is no political party in Croatia which is the
> member of EL so I cannot ask anyone here for support. Even more,
> considering the present situation, very soon it would become dangerous
> to be true leftist - I believe that is the common issue in almost all
> eastern European countries - it is especially dangerous when the threats
> come from the minister of interior as in our case.
> 
> Nevertheless, that is not an issue now, and for what is an issue (status
> of individual members), my support is here.
> 
> About the membership fee. I have been told that there is no obligatory
> membership fee for individual members but that 2 â‚Ź/month will be
> consider usual contribution. So I believe that simple avoidance of
> membership fee will not exclude anyone from the party membership.
> 
> Best regards,
> Brunislav Matasovic
> 
> 
> 
> Dana 4.10.2011. 11:11, Mike Nagler napisa:
> > Dear Stefano, dear all,
> > i think for the moment its the best to get in contact about it with
> > the directive/board. In case there is no reaction or no will - we
> > should go a step further and make something like an open letter inside
> > the membership of all parties to set our point on their agenda. (But
> > for that i would write it in another style than this one.)
> > Best,
> > Mike
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >     *From:* rainbowleft at libero.it <mailto:rainbowleft at libero.it>
> >     *To:* individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
> >     <mailto:individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de>
> >     *Sent:* Tuesday, October 04, 2011 10:28 AM
> >     *Subject:* [Individual-members-EL] R: Re: 1.may
> >
> >     Dear all,
> >
> >     I'd like to sign the letter as well. It reminds more or less the
> >     petition that we tried to circulate at the Paris summer University
> >     of the EL.
> >
> >     I have been an invidual member for years. I keep my membership
> >     card in the wallet altough I haven't paid any fees in a while but
> >     it was not really a choice, simply the activities were practically
> >     non-existent. Last meeting we had was probably more than one year
> >     ago to discuss the letter for the Congress. After we have a
> >     definitive version what kind of distribution were you thinking
> >     about? Would you spread it around among likely supporters or keep
> >     it ibetween us and the directive?
> >
> >     By the way, have a look to what other left-wing european parties
> >     are doing maybe they have a couple of recyclable ideas.
> >
> >     European Activists of the Socialists
> >     http://www.pes.org/en/pes-activists
> >     Individual supporters network of the Greens
> >     http://www.greenyourope.eu/
> >
> >     A note for the revision: I think that in English the title of
> >     Pierre Laurent is "President" more than "Chairman" of the EL.
> >
> >     http://www.european-left.org/english/home/news_archive/news_archive/zurueck/news-archive/artikel/message-of-el-president-pierre-laurent-the-spanish-movement-is-a-great-hope-1/
> >
> >
> >     Thank for the effort.
> >
> >     Stefano Panozzo
> >
> >         ----Messaggio originale----
> >         Da: norberthagemann at web.de
> >         Data: 03/10/2011 18.26
> >         A: "Indiv. Members
> >         EL"<individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de>, "asbjørn
> >         andersen"<asander at online.no>, <arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com>,
> >         <EPirelli at t-online.de>, <laurarey at online.no>
> >         Ogg: Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
> >
> >         Dear Mike, dear Stephen, dear Luke, dear Individuals :-)
> >         attached you can find the letter to Laurant translated by me
> >         into English. I think Stephen and / or you Luke you should
> >         please be so kind and check and correct this translation
> >         otherwise Laurant will get a worst translation into frensh and
> >         please let's avoid a situation that he can not understand due
> >         to language reasons.
> >         Afterwards the question is, who finally will sign, I saw a
> >         feedback only from Mike, Stephen and Luke or ... ?
> >         Let's try to have it ready till Thursday and then to
> >         distribute the letter via the EL office in Brussels (as a Mail
> >         or a letter ...?)
> >
> >         kind regards
> >
> >         Norbert
> >
> >
> >             ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >             *Von:* "Norbert Hagemann" <norberthagemann at web.de>
> >             *Gesendet:* 24-Sep-2011 19:03:51
> >             *An:* "Indiv. Members EL"
> >             <individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de>, "asbjørn
> >             andersen" <asander at online.no>, arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com,
> >             EPirelli at t-online.de, laurarey at online.no
> >             *Betreff:* Re: [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
> >
> >             Dear all,
> >             I'm using this mail to go in contact with you. Hopefully
> >             this will work.
> >             I would like to ask you all to give me a feedback on the
> >             following idea.
> >
> >             Next days there will be a meeting of the Ex-Board (?) in
> >             Paris. This meeting will take place roughly 9 months after
> >             the Paris Party Congress. Since this congress the board
> >             had a lot of meetings around the globe during which never
> >             ever was the discussed the issue of our rights, the rights
> >             as Individual members in the Party. So finally (after
> >             being for years – since Athens - a member without any
> >             rights) I would ask you to send a letter from our side to
> >             the Board meeting asking to find urgently a solution and
> >             to involve us in this process / decision how the solutions
> >             should looks like. I personally stopped 9 months ago to
> >             pay my Party contribution (no rights - no obligations) but
> >             nobody is caring about that.
> >             Would someone be interested to write together with me this
> >             letter and to sign it.
> >
> >             Kind regards
> >
> >             Norbert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >                 *Von:* selvĂĄg <kollung at online.no>
> >                 *Gesendet:* 01.05.2011 11:49:02
> >                 *An:* "asbjørn andersen" <asander at online.no>,
> >                 arthur.lindbom at yahoo.com, EPirelli at t-online.de,
> >                 laurarey at online.no,
> >                 individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
> >                 *Betreff:* [Individual-members-EL] 1.may
> >
> >                 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >                 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >                 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >                 red_flag*_workers of the world unite._*
> >                 *_1.may 2011._*
> >                 *_kollung selvĂĄg_*
> >
> >
> >
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