[Individual-members-EL] new working group

[Ulrich Deike]

Dear friends,

how about forming an EL working group "European Party" uniting individual members of
the EL that are not members of one of its member or observer parties and therefore define
themselves as a transnational group of members.
We would have to agree on our major goals (in line with the manifesto and statute of the EL)
and elect a board and spokesperson via email.

The big advantage: working groups are a well-established transnational structure of the EL,
no conflicts with statute etc. And I reckon we would also be entitled to have a budget and a link 
on the EL homepage.

One of our goals should definitely be to foster the Europeanization of existing national parties,
in our case especially of the EL.
Even though all of us recognize that, at the moment, most member parties in the EL don't like
 this, such an opinion surely wouldn't violate the principles of a European party such as the EL.

Other  possible goals of this working group:
-strengthening ties between EL-members inside and outside our group (local partnership across borders,...)
-political activities like the ones carried out by the Brussels group of indiv. members during the past years
-EL membership campaigns esp. in countries with no EL member party (some of you may of heard
of the flyer that Mike NAgler and I created 3 years ago for indiv. memership in Germany)
-internationalism beyond EU borders

I would like to hear about your views on this suggestion.

But I'm sure about one thing: Before asking party officials for permission (no, cross that out)...,
On informing them that we intend to found this working group we should present
-a text with our political goals, a short statute linked with the EL statute
-a name of our group (both agreed on by the people signing our founding document)
-a list of signatories


Cheers


Uli



> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "pablo sanchez centellas" <superpablo3 at hotmail.com>
> Gesendet: 03.05.09 19:51:06
> An: <individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de>
> Betreff: Re: [Individual-members-EL] EL Individual Members

 Sorry about cross posting... This did not go to the list!
> 
> Pablo,
> 
> I hope my message also goes to the EL discussion list!
> 
> In terms of the lineage of the various left 'projects' in this 
> country, the CPB (the main backer of No2EU) was never part of the 
> Socialist Alliance or Respect. Invited to join both but always 
> declined.
> 
> The other party, the Socialist Party, was part of the Socialist 
> Alliance, but not Respect.
> 
> I was hoping to point out that this isn't just Socialist Alliance/
> Respect/No2EU but actually something far worse!
> 
> My main fear is that people in Europe will see CPB and trade union 
> involvement in No2EU and therefore regard it as a positive development.
>  Many in Europe (such as the PRC) welcomed Respect's arrival onto the 
> scene and ignored all the negative aspects of its programme etc.
> 
> all best,
> 
> andrew
> 
> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 6:37 PM, pablo sanchez centellas <superpablo3@
> hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I meant the same millieu of people, sorry for not being clear. The 
> Socialist Alliance went into RESPECT (which I thought it was a sad 
> move) and now most of those who created it are in this coalition. (I 
> should have made this clear).
> 
> It is clear that the only elections were the British left has a 
> change of getting something elected (as the Greens have done in the 
> past) is a missed oportunity.
> 
> More important is the role of individual members. Is it too crazy to 
> propose an all european organisation that puts together all 
> individual members and then apply to join ELP.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> Pablo
> From: superpablo3 at hotmail.com
> To: stephen_spence at btinternet.com; individual-members-el at listi.
> jpberlin.de
> Date: Sat, 2 May 2009 18:00:11 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Individual-members-EL] EL Individual Members
> 
> Dear comrades,
> 
> Well, the point is that the different parties that run for the coming 
> European elections do not even take individual members into account.
> 
> It is a pity that there is not a website or a blog but I think that 
> the hard reality does not encourage people to work towards something 
> that you do not even know if it is going to be acknowledged.
> The Cercle in Brussels has gone trhough a similar period, people do 
> wonder what is the point of meeting if we are a talking shop.
> Apparently the italians are going together with the communist list 
> but I wonder how much life does Sinistra Europea does have?
> I am very pessimistic about the future of the individual members, on 
> the other hand there have been some changes such as the depart of the 
> hungarian partner if the ELP had had a hungarian group of individual 
> members they could establish a base to the left of the current 
> government so there is some room for us to exist.
> 
> Just some thoughts.
> 
> About the No2EU campaign in the UK, i think this is the same people 
> that tried to create RESPECT, the Socialist Alliance, the old CPB and 
> some trade unionists that have attempted to build a left alternative 
> for the last 10 years. I fear that this will be another fiasco. The 
> ELP should debate the situation in the UK as far as the left is 
> concerned.
> 
> I would like to see the ELP taking more seriously both the individual 
> members and people who are trying to build a left alternative in 
> difficult conditions. I hope that after the elections they realise 
> the need to develop a wider base of support.
> 
> Yours
> 
> Pablo
> 
> From: stephen_spence at btinternet.com
> To: individual-members-el at listi.jpberlin.de
> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:27:56 +0100
> Subject: [Individual-members-EL] EL Individual Members
> 
> Dear Comrades,
> 
> I have not seen any discussion between individual members on this 
> list for many months.
> 
> In the UK individual members still do not have any status within EL 
> despite asking Helmut Scholz on several occasions to ask the 
> Executive Board to grant observer status to our network. The network 
> here has now taken down its website and its blog as the lack of 
> status within EL has resulted in very little activity from the 
> members we do have. So far we have built the network up twice only to 
> see it dwindle again.
> 
> The majority of the UK Left remains anti-EU as demonstrated by an 
> electoral platform ‘No to EU, Yes to Democracy’ being run in the 
> European Elections by the RMT union, Communist Party of Britain and 
> the Socialist Party of England and Wales, which I certainly do not 
> support. I am not part of the anti-Europe left.
> 
> Those of us who support EU solidarity within the Left do not have a 
> UK party and the EL appears to have little interest in us. I think 
> all of us are considering what future we have with the EL.
> 
> In solidarity
> 
> Stephen Spence
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