[Individual-members-EL] EL
Dr. Peter Troxler
peter at klapt.net
Fri Feb 8 00:15:32 CET 2008
On 7-feb-2008, at 21:50, sigfrido ramirez wrote:
> the decision to be organised in national chapters is already taken.
> Steven has already requested the same on behalf of the other
> individual members. We are thinking about doing the same in Brussels
oh no, please ... to be quite frank and open -- and supporting Mike
Nagler
let them Italians have their own national socialist observer status
if they want it as such. no national group should, in my opinion,
try to do become a "national observer" unless they are really
representing some sort of national socialist grouping because there
is no other suitable socialist party to do that job.
but that's not what I am looking for as an individual member.
I am looking for and requesting a representation of the (pan)
European (thus supra-national) group of individual members of the EL.
that's something NO national socialist party can do.
the personal reason is that being born in Switzerland, having lived
in Scotland and living now in the Netherlands I could not feel
attached to any of the above "nations" nor to any other else; I live
and feel as a European (even if Switzerland is not formally a member
of the EU).
the political reason, more importantly, is that the ever more buoying
pan-european, globalized, pan-galactic neo-post-capitalism, our
biggest enemy, does NOT AT ALL care about national boundaries, and we
socialists are systemically bound to fail if we try to fight post-
capitalism on a national level. social policy is to be made on EU
level, influenced by supra-nationally acting post-capitalist
lobbying (and not by elected representatives).
national socialist parties fight to keep their national employment
(e.g. in the NL the fight against the closure of Unilever). this is
a good thing to do -- on national level, and they do get my fullest
support.
but on the European / EU level this becomes just completely
irrelevant. EU standars for working conditions across the zone of
free movement of labour is more important. even more important is to
address the issue of the deflection of (skilled) (blue collar) labour
from new / accessing countries to the "old" EU nations which akins to
some kind of tripple post-capitalist slavery -- (1) the individual
who becomes the slave of capitalists in the established nations; (2)
whole societies (of the new countries) get stripped of their work-
force to the monetary benefit of the established EU states while at
the same time (3) post-capitalist "entrepreneurs" take over the new
states' economies only to sell their less mobile resources to
globalized corporations
very few of the national socialist parties are likely to address
these supra-national issues; thus the EL urgently *needs* the
community of non-nationalist individual members AT THE VERY LEAST as
observers, but in actual fact as one of the driving forces behind the
very idea of EL.
frankly, I don't see that "national" groups of individual members
should even try to get member status, and it should be denied to the
Sinistra Europa if they claim it to be national (I don't know their
actual position; and if they'd agree to the above positions I would
have little hesitation to make them the seed of an individual
members' representation).
organisation, i.e.how to reach members -- not how to represent them
-- is a completely different issue and would for practical reasons
probably best be handled nationally or regionally
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