[fyeg_gen-l] Understanding European Governance ? - in context of Tobin Tax (Dante-Gabryell Monson)

Maarten Lucas maarten.luc at gmail.com
Fri Jul 1 19:12:31 CEST 2011


Hello

What the Belgian situation concerns, I can tell as a Belgian that it may be
 possible the tax will be granted. At the moment, we have a real
Parlementary democracy and we vote on bills with a majority of seats,
regardless of who's in power in the goverment. So, for example, there
probably will be a new pensionbill passed next autumn (if there aren't
new elections by then, which are also a big possibility).

But in my opinion, and also according to the majority of the seats of
the federal parlement, it won't be a good idea to introduce such a tax
on state-=
level. It must be on the level on the Union. Also, Belgium has a
right-wing majority in seats. So because of not having a full
government and therefor=
 a complete parlementary democracy, we will have loads of more
right-winged bills then we're used to (the social-democrats have been
in power for the =
last fifty years in a row in Belgium, so it's a real adaptation from
now on). Last week a new bill to heavily reduce the means for
migration has passe=
d the parlement, which proves this.

So frankly, I don't think Belgium will pass a Tobin Tax the next few
years. Not because we don't have a full government (some things even
work signifi=
cant better then with one), but because we have the wrong parties in
the majority of the seats.

greetings
Maarten
Jong Groen! (Flanders/Belgium)


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>   1. Understanding European Governance ? - in context of       Tobin Tax
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> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 17:25:42 +0200
> From: Dante-Gabryell Monson <dante.monson at gmail.com>
> To: fyeg_gen-l at listi.jpberlin.de
> Subject: [fyeg_gen-l] Understanding European Governance ? - in context
>        of      Tobin Tax
> Message-ID: <BANLkTimt-4e_gnhBpCT5hogxyHbispE7tA at mail.gmail.com>
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> Below, a press release<
> http://www.greens-efa.eu/fr/financial-transaction-tax-3348.html>showing
> the interest from the European Parliament in relation to Financial
> Transaction Taxation.
>
> //
>
> I wish to discuss it on the forum,
> though at the moment it seems to be blocked !?
> http://fyeg.org/forum/
>
> //
> *
> *
> *further notes, on how difficult in might be to actually adopt such
> financial transaction tax through elected representative political
> procedures :*
>
> The Parliament seems, in my current understanding, to have only a limited
> influence :
> *a diluted power to approve or reject directives made by the European
> Commission.*
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> ( link to image - wikipedia
> )<
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:European_Union_legislative_triangle.svg>
>
> Based on the report below, it feels like the EU Parliament does not have
> the
> power to choose the laws it wants to vote on, and which have precedent on
> all other national and regional legislations.
>
> It seems to me that the combined powers of the EU Parliament and of all the
> other National and Regional Parliaments is less then that of the European
> Commission and the European Council.
>
> It seems - based on my current knowledge - that the EU Parliament, in
> relation to proposals for directives, is merely relegated to a pressure
> group with some kind of attention from media, towards a population which
> has
> no powers to elect nor the European Commission, not the President of the
> European Council , or more exactly the Councilium of the European
> Union<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_European_Union>
>
>
> The EU Parliament seems to have even less powers then the Council of the
> European Union , as the Council seems to have the power to initiate EU law
> itself :
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_European_Union
>
> *" In a few limited areas the Council may initiate new EU
> law<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_the_European_Union> itself.
> "*
>
> Hence, overall, the framework for political "democratic"
> accountability<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accountability>seems to be
> very limited, despite the EU Commissioners needing to be
> approved once every few years by the European Parliament, a European
> Parliament which itself is, at the scale of the population of the EU who
> voted, apparently not very legitimate, considering the low voting turnout.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament_election,_2009
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_the_European_Union#Voter_behaviour
>
> *"In 2009, the overall turnout was just 43%"*
>
> -------
>
> http://www.greens-efa.eu/fr/financial-transaction-tax-3348.html
> Financial transaction tax European Parliament keeps pressure on for
> European
> FTT
>
> The European Parliament today reiterated the call for the introduction of
> an
> EU-level financial transaction tax, as part of a report on innovative
> financing adopted by MEPs. The Greens have long called for the introduction
> of a financial transaction tax and welcomed the vote, with Green MEP
> *Philippe
> Lamberts* commenting:
>
>
>
> *"The EP has kept the pressure on for the introduction of a financial
> transaction tax at EU-level. While the ultimate goal should be to introduce
> a global FTT, there are clear benefits for the EU to push ahead on its own.
> MEPs have today urged the Commission to take steps to this end.*
>
> **
>
> *"The Greens have long championed the introduction of a financial
> transaction tax both as a means of curbing harmful speculation and as a new
> source for generating public revenue. As well as being a potentially
> significant source of revenue at a time when national exchequers are under
> strain, a financial transaction tax is socially just. A FTT would also
> clearly address the systemic risk emanating from high-frequency trading,
> acting as a disincentive for risky speculation. It is time for the
> Commission and member states to stop stalling."*
>
>
> The petition thing is the "European Citizens' Initiative" which
> coincidentally enough was just launched today and there is even a
> conference
> starting now on it!
>
> The Greens have also created a website (http://www.eci-greens-efa.net/)
> that
> will function as a sort of hothouse/message board to allow people all over
> Europe to get together to launch one of these initiatives.
>
>
>
> Livestream of conference now: http://www.greenmediabox.eu/live/eci/
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 15:44:10 +0200
> Subject: Re: article trends : 2 Belges sur 3 veulent taxer les transactions
> financi?res
> From: dante.monson at gmail.com
>
>
> Unfortunately, the situation of the current Belgian "caretaker" Government
> may not make it possible to bring forward and apply such Tobin Tax
> measures.
>
>
> And even if it did
> ( although I would need some more expert opinion on this )
> my current understanding is that
>
> the European Commission drafts directives can block or over-rule national
> or
> regional decisions.
>
> To my current understanding, directives of the European Commission
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Union_law
>
> only need to be approved by the European Council and the European
> Parliament
> - not by national governments.
>
> To my current understanding, it is not the european parliament which drafts
> law proposals at a european level.
>
> For the European Commission to "consider" to draft or change a directive,
> there is the "option" to make a petition converging one million
> signatures. ( under specific conditions - percentages from each country,
> etc
> )
>
> And even after such petition asking for writing or modifying a directive,
> there is no obligation for the commission to follow suit on such request by
> one million people.
>
> ///
>
> European Union - Democratic ?
>
>
>
> 2011/6/29 Michel strong social support for tobin tax in belgium:
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Dante-Gabryell Monson* <dante.monson at gmail.com>
> Date: 2011/6/29
> Subject: article trends : 2 Belges sur 3 veulent taxer les transactions
> financi?res
>
>
> 2 Belges sur 3 veulent taxer les transactions financi?res
>
> http://trends.rnews.be/fr/economie/actualite/banque-et-finance/2-belges-sur-3-veulent-taxer-les-transactions-financieres/article-1195046610002.htm
>
> lundi 27 juin 2011 ? 16h58
>
> *67 % des Belges sont favorables ? l'introduction d'une taxe sur les
> transactions financi?res, selon un sondage Eurobarom?tre publi? par le
> Parlement europ?en. C?est plus que la moyenne de l?UE*
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