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<DIV><SPAN class=625043519-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hallo
Rüdiger,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=625043519-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>in
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<DIV><SPAN class=625043519-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>1.
Was, bitte, ist das Systemische im Kapitalismus?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=625043519-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>2. Ich
rede nicht von Dingen, an die ich glaube. Ich rede von Tatsachen, von Dingen von
denen ich mir Wissen und Erfahrung angeeignet habe. Ideologien sind mir
zuwider.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=625043519-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>3.
Kann es sein, dass dem in vielen Dingen sicherlich brillanten Herrn Marx
vielleicht doch ein paar Gedankenfehler unterlaufen sind? Wie anders kann es
sein, das es einen funktionierenden real existierenden Marxismus noch nie
gegeben hat? Sein Fehler, oder der seiner Anwender? Ich tippe auf
ersteres.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=625043519-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>4.
Das, was ich meine, hat bei mir 180 Seiten und gehört in ein Buch und nicht in
eine Debatte. Nur so viel: Es gibt einen real existierenden Kapitalismus, der
fehlerhafte Seiten hat, die der Korrektur und Bändigung bedürfen (wie die
Menschen auch!). Und es gibt ein Sozialideal, das genau diese Aufgabe erfüllt.
Es hat einiges mit kommunistischen Idealen gemein, weshalb ich zu meiner Aussage
stehe.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=625043519-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>5. Man
verbessert die Welt nicht, indem man etwas kaputt macht, sondern indem man etwas
Vorhandenes verbessert. </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>"Ich bin
nun überzeugt, dass der höchste Akt der Vernunft, der, in </FONT><FONT
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>dem sie alle Ideen umfasst, ein ästhetischer Akt
ist und dass </FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Wahrheit und Güte nur
in der Schönheit verschwistert sind."</FONT></DIV></SPAN>
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<DIV><SPAN class=625043519-10042007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Kommt
Dir doch bekannt vor, oder?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> Rüdiger Heescher
[mailto:ruediger.heescher@attac.de]<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Dienstag, 10. April
2007 15:14<BR><B>An:</B> Florian Hoffmann<BR><B>Cc:</B> Debatte
Grundeinkommen; Joerg Drescher<BR><B>Betreff:</B> Re: [Debatte-Grundeinkommen]
Marktwirtschaftlicher sozialer Kapitalismus; Debatte-grundeinkommen
Nachrichtensammlung, Band 25, Eintrag 6<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Hallo Florian
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<DIV>Das hört sich ja wirklich genial an, was Du schriebst</DIV>
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<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Da wird der Kapitalismus gerecht und der</DIV>
<DIV style="MARGIN: 0px">Kommunismus praktikabel. Ein
Traum!</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV>Kannst du dazu Deine Erkenntnisse hier
veröffentlichen? Bisher hat sich mir diese Synthese noch nie erschlossen, weil
der systemische Befund über die Mechanismen des Kapitalismus (Analyse des
Kapitalismus nach Marx) sich ausschliesst mit Kommunismus.
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<DIV>Aber man lernt ja nie aus.</DIV>
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<DIV>Vielleicht meinst Du auch was anderes als Kapitalismus und glaubst an
Mechanismen, die im Kapitalismus funktionieren. Aber nicht das systemische im
Kapitalimus.</DIV>
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